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    By tejanos4420 | Sat, 2008-07-26 17:30

    Hi Everyone,

    I've been a member of Nuestros Ranchos for some months now & enjoy reading all the tips & tricks & new ideas I see here.  (Due to school responsibilities, I have no had much time for research.) But none of them have enabled me to find out more about my paternal gg grandparents, D. Simon & Da. Micaela Torres (de) Quinteros.  So now I'm asking for your help.  Simon was born in Mexico in 1852.  His father may be Mario/Mariano Quinteros-not sure on the mother who may or may not be a Rosales.  Simon married Micaela Torres who was born in Mexico in 1849.  She was the daughter of Rafael Torres-again not sure about the mother.  They were married in the chapel of Hacienda del Fuerte by a priest of  the parish in Sta. Elena  in Rio Grande, Zacatecas, Mexico on 24 June 1874.  They had atleast two sons, Simon who I know nothing about, & Rafael who was born in Rio Grande in 1878 & later became my g grandfather.  Rafael Quinteros md Domitila Mendez who I
    was told was born in Fresnillo in 1882-3 & was the daughter of Andres Mendez & Dionisia Arellano who I now believe may actually be an Alvarado & from Jerez instead.  Rafael & Domitila moved their family to TX in 1922 & their youngest son was my grandfather.  Unfortunately, our family is not close, many of the old are dying off & during the course of researching my father's line, I have found lots of misinformation that is supposed to be family "gospel". 

    I need help locating/tracing further back Simon, Domitila's & Micaela's families.  My father said he believed the Quinteros family (who may or may not have an s on the end of the surname the further back you go) may have had some connections in Saltillo, NL.  The only reference I am able to find of Simon & Micaela is their marriage record (source ref M604910 LDS Films from Salt Lake FHL) which was nearly impossible for me to decipher with any accuracy. (water damage?, terrible handwriting)  I had been told our family on the paternal side was of  Aztec/Spanish origins but until I found the marriage record, I was unaware that we were also landowners.  The parish they married in is still in existence & I understand the hacienda del fuerte is also still around, albeit in ruins.  I've tried contacting the priests in that area with no response from them-maybe because of the recent papal ban on release of records due to actions of the LDS church in
    baptizing deceased members of the catholic faith. 

    Maybe some of you who have access to this record may have better luck finding something I overlooked.  I am somewhat bilingual but not to any great extent other than enough conversational spanish to get by with & I do not have much experience in researching Mexican ancestry.  It's one thing trying to decipher poor handwriting in English, but poorly written Spanish when you're not much of a native Spanish speaker is another.  I could make out the words viuda (is this referring to a previous marriage of the bride?) & the word for god parents & parents but could not decipher the names.  Can anyone out there help me?

    Thanks in advance for all/any help you can give me!

    Julia D. Quinteros de Hernandez
    Dallas, TX

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    tejanos4420

    17 years 3 months ago

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    Rio Grande, Zacatecas

    Hi Everyone,

    I've been a member of Nuestros Ranchos for some months now & enjoy reading all the tips & tricks & new ideas I see here.  (Due to school responsibilities, I have no had much time for research.) But none of them have enabled me to find out more about my paternal gg grandparents, D. Simon & Da. Micaela Torres (de) Quinteros.  So now I'm asking for your help.  Simon was born in Mexico in 1852.  His father may be Mario/Mariano Quinteros-not sure on the mother who may or may not be a Rosales.  Simon married Micaela Torres who was born in Mexico in 1849.  She was the daughter of Rafael Torres-again not sure about the mother.  They were married in the chapel of Hacienda del Fuerte by a priest of  the parish in Sta. Elena  in Rio Grande, Zacatecas, Mexico on 24 June 1874.  They had atleast two sons, Simon who I know nothing about, & Rafael who was born in Rio Grande in 1878 & later became my g grandfather.  Rafael Quinteros md Domitila Mendez who I
    was told was born in Fresnillo in 1882-3 & was the daughter of Andres Mendez & Dionisia Arellano who I now believe may actually be an Alvarado & from Jerez instead.  Rafael & Domitila moved their family to TX in 1922 & their youngest son was my grandfather.  Unfortunately, our family is not close, many of the old are dying off & during the course of researching my father's line, I have found lots of misinformation that is supposed to be family "gospel". 

    I need help locating/tracing further back Simon, Domitila's & Micaela's families.  My father said he believed the Quinteros family (who may or may not have an s on the end of the surname the further back you go) may have had some connections in Saltillo, NL.  The only reference I am able to find of Simon & Micaela is their marriage record (source ref M604910 LDS Films from Salt Lake FHL) which was nearly impossible for me to decipher with any accuracy. (water damage?, terrible handwriting)  I had been told our family on the paternal side was of  Aztec/Spanish origins but until I found the marriage record, I was unaware that we were also landowners.  The parish they married in is still in existence & I understand the hacienda del fuerte is also still around, albeit in ruins.  I've tried contacting the priests in that area with no response from them-maybe because of the recent papal ban on release of records due to actions of the LDS church in
    baptizing deceased members of the catholic faith. 

    Maybe some of you who have access to this record may have better luck finding something I overlooked.  I am somewhat bilingual but not to any great extent other than enough conversational spanish to get by with & I do not have much experience in researching Mexican ancestry.  It's one thing trying to decipher poor handwriting in English, but poorly written Spanish when you're not much of a native Spanish speaker is another.  I could make out the words viuda (is this referring to a previous marriage of the bride?) & the word for god parents & parents but could not decipher the names.  Can anyone out there help me?

    Thanks in advance for all/any help you can give me!

    Julia D. Quinteros de Hernandez
    Dallas, TX

    Profile picture for user tejanos4420

    tejanos4420

    17 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to Rio Grande, Zacatecas by tejanos4420

    Rio Grande, Zacatecas

    Hi Everyone,

    I've been a member of Nuestros Ranchos for some months now & enjoy reading all the tips & tricks & new ideas I see here.  (Due to school responsibilities, I have no had much time for research.) But none of them have enabled me to find out more about my paternal gg grandparents, D. Simon & Da. Micaela Torres (de) Quinteros.  So now I'm asking for your help.  Simon was born in Mexico in 1852.  His father may be Mario/Mariano Quinteros-not sure on the mother who may or may not be a Rosales.  Simon married Micaela Torres who was born in Mexico in 1849.  She was the daughter of Rafael Torres-again not sure about the mother.  They were married in the chapel of Hacienda del Fuerte by a priest of  the parish in Sta. Elena  in Rio Grande, Zacatecas, Mexico on 24 June 1874.  They had atleast two sons, Simon who I know nothing about, & Rafael who was born in Rio Grande in 1878 & later became my g grandfather.  Rafael Quinteros md Domitila Mendez who I
    was told was born in Fresnillo in 1882-3 & was the daughter of Andres Mendez & Dionisia Arellano who I now believe may actually be an Alvarado & from Jerez instead.  Rafael & Domitila moved their family to TX in 1922 & their youngest son was my grandfather.  Unfortunately, our family is not close, many of the old are dying off & during the course of researching my father's line, I have found lots of misinformation that is supposed to be family "gospel". 

    I need help locating/tracing further back Simon, Domitila's & Micaela's families.  My father said he believed the Quinteros family (who may or may not have an s on the end of the surname the further back you go) may have had some connections in Saltillo, NL.  The only reference I am able to find of Simon & Micaela is their marriage record (source ref M604910 LDS Films from Salt Lake FHL) which was nearly impossible for me to decipher with any accuracy. (water damage?, terrible handwriting)  I had been told our family on the paternal side was of  Aztec/Spanish origins but until I found the marriage record, I was unaware that we were also landowners.  The parish they married in is still in existence & I understand the hacienda del fuerte is also still around, albeit in ruins.  I've tried contacting the priests in that area with no response from them-maybe because of the recent papal ban on release of records due to actions of the LDS church in
    baptizing deceased members of the catholic faith. 

    Maybe some of you who have access to this record may have better luck finding something I overlooked.  I am somewhat bilingual but not to any great extent other than enough conversational spanish to get by with & I do not have much experience in researching Mexican ancestry.  It's one thing trying to decipher poor handwriting in English, but poorly written Spanish when you're not much of a native Spanish speaker is another.  I could make out the words viuda (is this referring to a previous marriage of the bride?) & the word for god parents & parents but could not decipher the names.  Can anyone out there help me?

    Thanks in advance for all/any help you can give me!

    Julia D. Quinteros de Hernandez
    Dallas, TX

    ayalarobles

    17 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to Rio Grande, Zacatecas by tejanos4420

    Rio Grande, Zacatecas

    Saltillo is in the state of Coahuila, not Nuevo Leon. Not all microfilm for Saltillo has been indexed in the IGI. There are Portions of films are missing from the IGI. If I can be of help reply to me privately.

    --
    Esther A. Herold

    -------------- Original message from Christopher Hernandez : --------------

    > Hi Everyone,
    > I've been a member of Nuestros Ranchos for some months now & enjoy reading all the tips & tricks & new ideas I see here. (Due to school responsibilities, I have no had much time for research.) But none of them have enabled me to find out more about my paternal gg grandparents, D. Simon & Da. Micaela Torres (de) Quinteros. So now I'm asking for your help. Simon was born in Mexico in 1852. His father may be Mario/Mariano Quinteros-not sure on the mother who may or may not be a Rosales. Simon married Micaela Torres who was born in Mexico in 1849. She was the daughter of Rafael Torres-again not sure about the mother. They were married in the chapel of Hacienda del Fuerte by a priest of the parish in Sta. Elena in Rio Grande, Zacatecas, Mexico on 24 June 1874. They had atleast two sons, Simon who I know nothing about, & Rafael who was born in Rio Grande in
    > 1878 & later became my g grandfather. Rafael Quinteros md Domitila Mendez who I
    > was told was born in Fresnillo in 1882-3 & was the daughter of Andres Mendez &
    > Dionisia Arellano who I now believe may actually be an Alvarado & from Jerez
    > instead. Rafael & Domitila moved their family to TX in 1922 & their youngest
    > son was my grandfather. Unfortunately, our family is not close, many of the old
    > are dying off & during the course of researching my father's line, I have found
    > lots of misinformation that is supposed to be family "gospel".
    >
    > I need help locating/tracing further back Simon, Domitila's & Micaela's
    > families. My father said he believed the Quinteros family (who may or may not
    > have an s on the end of the surname the further back you go) may have had some
    > connections in Saltillo, NL. The only reference I am able to find of Simon &
    > Micaela is their marriage record (source ref M604910 LDS Films from Salt Lake
    > FHL) which was nearly impossible for me to decipher with any accuracy. (water
    > damage?, terrible handwriting) I had been told our family on the paternal side
    > was of Aztec/Spanish origins but until I found the marriage record, I was
    > unaware that we were also landowners. The parish they married in is still in
    > existence & I understand the hacienda del fuerte is also still around, albeit in
    > ruins. I've tried contacting the priests in that area with no response from
    > them-maybe because of the recent papal ban on release of records due to actions
    > of the LDS church in
    > baptizing deceased members of the catholic faith.
    >
    > Maybe some of you who have access to this record may have better luck finding
    > something I overlooked. I am somewhat bilingual but not to any great extent
    > other than enough conversational spanish to get by with & I do not have much
    > experience in researching Mexican ancestry. It's one thing trying to decipher
    > poor handwriting in English, but poorly written Spanish when you're not much of
    > a native Spanish speaker is another. I could make out the words viuda (is this
    > referring to a previous marriage of the bride?) & the word for god parents &
    > parents but could not decipher the names. Can anyone out there help me?
    >
    > Thanks in advance for all/any help you can give me!
    >
    > Julia D. Quinteros de Hernandez
    > Dallas, TX
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

    ayalarobles

    17 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to Rio Grande, Zacatecas by tejanos4420

    Rio Grande, Zacatecas

    I have Simon Quinteros married Micaela Torres on 24 JUN 1874 Santa Elena, Rio Grande, Zacatecas, Mexico
    .
    This information was in the IGI , THe microfilm # was 0604910 . The batch # for the film is M601141

    There are many Quinteros in Coahuila. There are also Quinteros in Nuevo Leon.
    --
    Esther A. Herold

    -------------- Original message from Christopher Hernandez : --------------

    > Hi Everyone,
    > I've been a member of Nuestros Ranchos for some months now & enjoy reading all the tips & tricks & new ideas I see here. (Due to school responsibilities, I have no had much time for research.) But none of them have enabled me to find out more about my paternal gg grandparents, D. Simon & Da. Micaela Torres (de) Quinteros. So now I'm asking for your help. Simon was born in Mexico in 1852. His father may be Mario/Mariano Quinteros-not sure on the mother who may or may not be a Rosales. Simon married Micaela Torres who was born in Mexico in 1849. She was the daughter of Rafael Torres-again not sure about the mother. They were married in the chapel of Hacienda del Fuerte by a priest of the parish in Sta. Elena in Rio Grande, Zacatecas, Mexico on 24 June 1874. They had atleast two sons, Simon who I know nothing about, & Rafael who was born in Rio Grande in
    > 1878 & later became my g grandfather. Rafael Quinteros md Domitila Mendez who I
    > was told was born in Fresnillo in 1882-3 & was the daughter of Andres Mendez &
    > Dionisia Arellano who I now believe may actually be an Alvarado & from Jerez
    > instead. Rafael & Domitila moved their family to TX in 1922 & their youngest
    > son was my grandfather. Unfortunately, our family is not close, many of the old
    > are dying off & during the course of researching my father's line, I have found
    > lots of misinformation that is supposed to be family "gospel".
    >
    > I need help locating/tracing further back Simon, Domitila's & Micaela's
    > families. My father said he believed the Quinteros family (who may or may not
    > have an s on the end of the surname the further back you go) may have had some
    > connections in Saltillo, NL. The only reference I am able to find of Simon &
    > Micaela is their marriage record (source ref M604910 LDS Films from Salt Lake
    > FHL) which was nearly impossible for me to decipher with any accuracy. (water
    > damage?, terrible handwriting) I had been told our family on the paternal side
    > was of Aztec/Spanish origins but until I found the marriage record, I was
    > unaware that we were also landowners. The parish they married in is still in
    > existence & I understand the hacienda del fuerte is also still around, albeit in
    > ruins. I've tried contacting the priests in that area with no response from
    > them-maybe because of the recent papal ban on release of records due to actions
    > of the LDS church in
    > baptizing deceased members of the catholic faith.
    >
    > Maybe some of you who have access to this record may have better luck finding
    > something I overlooked. I am somewhat bilingual but not to any great extent
    > other than enough conversational spanish to get by with & I do not have much
    > experience in researching Mexican ancestry. It's one thing trying to decipher
    > poor handwriting in English, but poorly written Spanish when you're not much of
    > a native Spanish speaker is another. I could make out the words viuda (is this
    > referring to a previous marriage of the bride?) & the word for god parents &
    > parents but could not decipher the names. Can anyone out there help me?
    >
    > Thanks in advance for all/any help you can give me!
    >
    > Julia D. Quinteros de Hernandez
    > Dallas, TX
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

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