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Diego Romo De Vivar/Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.

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  • By NathanJones | Wed, 2006-04-26 22:07

    I was quite surprised to find that a Google search could turn up so much information on an ancestor.

    Just for the hell of it I entered DIEGO ROMO DE VIVAR. I knew he was born in Spain in 1608, married Maria Rnagel who was also born somewhere in Spain in 1612, and that they started a large family in Aguascalientes, New Spain.

    The Google search revealed that he created the town of Rincon de Romos in 1658 when he bought a hacienda owned by Pedro Rincon de Ortega that had long been named “Chora.” I thought Rincon de Romos meant the Corner of the Romos, but it actually is a combination of the former owner’s surname, Rincon, with that of the purchaser, Romo.

    Rincon de Romos is 41 kilometers north of the City of Aguascalientes, in the state of Aguascalientes.
    Rincon de Romos is a handsome town, from the pictures I’ve seen online it looks like a little chunk of Spain.

    Has anyone been there? I will have to visit. I’ll bet there’s even a portrait of my ancestor in city hall.

    I haven't been able to find anything before Diego Romo de Vivar and Maria Rangel, no parents, city or province of birth. There is a record of their crossing to the New World together.

    Am I missing a source for their lineage in Spain?

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    oldcar53

    19 years 6 months ago

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    Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.

    Nathan,

    I have just recently found some of my ancestors from Pabellon, Rincon de Romos, Ags.
    Maria Cayetana Esparza Luevano would be my GGG grandmother, born in Hacienda de Pabellon about 1813 according to the marriage document. She was the daughter of Doroteo Esparza and Maria Dolores Luevano. Doroteo and Maria Dolores were married in Pabellon, Rincon de Romos. Ags on 18 Jan 1807.

    I have not ordered any films from Aguascalientes yet because I ordered five rolls of films of Nochistlan Zac at the end of January when they announced the price increase so I could order just before the rates went up to $5.50. I am still working through some of these rolls and don't want to order any film until I finish with what I have on order.

    I am very anxious to begin my research in Rincon de Romos but it will have to wait.
    Thanks for that information.

    I have been to Aguascalientes, that was back in 89/90 before I knew I had ancestors from Aguascalientes or even before I took any interest in Geneaology. That's when I was young and muy taruga about these things. It is one of the areas of Mexico that has a lot of industry. Aguascalientes has a large textile industry. They produce many fine linens, blankets and clothing. We stayed in hotels in Aguascalientes while visiting the outer provinces as it appeared to be clean, safe and concentric to the areas we wanted to visit at the time.
    We'll keep in touch as we each continue our research.

    Saludos..........Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo

    makas_nc

    19 years 6 months ago

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    In reply to Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes. by oldcar53

    Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.

    Hi Alicia,

    Glad to hear of you finding roots in Aguascalientes. I also have roots
    there as on the death certificate of my GGG grandfather Pedro Torres it
    is said he was from Aguascalientes. I don't know more than that. . .one
    of the many trails that I will have to follow as time permits.

    Recently I was in the Univ. of NC, Chapel Hill map room and I decided to
    do some digital copies of the Aguascalientes area. I didn't do ever
    corner of it but just some of the highlites. . .

    In the maps Album you'll find it now broken up into five subfolders:
    Reference, Aguascalientes, Jalisco, Historical, and Zacatecas.

    in the Aguascalientes subfolder there is a map there called Pabellon de
    Hidalgo. I think this map might be close to where your Hacienda de
    Pabellon might be, but it is probably on the next map sheet over to the
    right or east of the one shown. Have a look and if you want I can hunt
    for it next time I'm at UNC. I think I remember seeing Rincon de Romos,
    but couldn't find it on this map.

    Also I've uploaded a map with a Ranchos called El Astillero. . .I think
    this must be a different map from the El Astillero that Ed Serros comes
    from. I thought that Ranchos was close to Valparaiso, Zacatecas. . .then
    again I can't quite make out the boundaries and maybe this scan is
    actually of Zacatecas.

    joseph

    ps: have a look in the Reference. If you see an map you'd like me to
    look for you or if anyone else is hunting for something in specific all
    i need is the Larger Reference number as in: F13, F14, E13, E14 and then
    the specific map number: A11, A12, A13 etc.

    So you'd say something like F15 B55 Valparaiso

    Alicia Carrillo wrote:

    >Nathan,
    >
    > I have just recently found some of my ancestors from Pabellon, Rincon de Romos, Ags.
    > Maria Cayetana Esparza Luevano would be my GGG grandmother, born in Hacienda de Pabellon about 1813 according to the marriage document. She was the daughter of Doroteo Esparza and Maria Dolores Luevano. Doroteo and Maria Dolores were married in Pabellon, Rincon de Romos. Ags on 18 Jan 1807.
    >
    > I have not ordered any films from Aguascalientes yet because I ordered five rolls of films of Nochistlan Zac at the end of January when they announced the price increase so I could order just before the rates went up to $5.50. I am still working through some of these rolls and don't want to order any film until I finish with what I have on order.
    >
    > I am very anxious to begin my research in Rincon de Romos but it will have to wait.
    > Thanks for that information.
    >
    > I have been to Aguascalientes, that was back in 89/90 before I knew I had ancestors from Aguascalientes or even before I took any interest in Geneaology. That's when I was young and muy taruga about these things. It is one of the areas of Mexico that has a lot of industry. Aguascalientes has a large textile industry. They produce many fine linens, blankets and clothing. We stayed in hotels in Aguascalientes while visiting the outer provinces as it appeared to be clean, safe and concentric to the areas we wanted to visit at the time.
    > We'll keep in touch as we each continue our research.
    >
    > Saludos..........Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
    >
    >

    NathanJones

    19 years 6 months ago

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    In reply to Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes. by makas_nc

    Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.

    One way to save dinero is to order microfiche if your data is available in that format. The LDS tells me they do not intend to increase the price of fiche, and it currently costs only 15 cents each!

    I'll bet we are related. Probably through the glorious Petronila Moctezuma. I'm descended from her older daughter, Ana Francisca Gabay de Moctezuma. I think you might be descended from her younger daughter Maria who married into the Luevana family.

    Has anyone found a date of death for Petronila? I've gone through dozens of documents on her and none has a date of death listed, only her birth in 1550 in Aguascalientes.

    It is a dream of mine to find a portrait of her. I think there is a good chance that one exists in Aguascalientes.

    josiett

    19 years 6 months ago

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    In reply to Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes. by NathanJones

    Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.

    Hi!

    I tried to order a group of microfiche for Nuevo Leon a few weeks ago from
    SLC but I was told they no longer sold them because everything was on
    computers now. I was very disappointed to hear that because I was able to
    obtain a microfiche reader and bought a lot of microfiche some years
    ago.....but then gave a friend of mine my entire Nuevo Leon microfiche set
    because I knew I could order more for myself.....well, now I don't have any
    for myself! If you find out that they still can sell them, please let me
    know so I can order more.....Thanks!

    Josie

    -----Original Message-----
    From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
    [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of
    erniealderete@charter.net
    Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:01 AM
    To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
    Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.

    One way to save dinero is to order microfiche if your data is available in
    that format. The LDS tells me they do not intend to increase the price of
    fiche, and it currently costs only 15 cents each!

    makas_nc

    19 years 6 months ago

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    In reply to Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes. by josiett

    Microfiche:Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.

    Now I've seen some things on microfiche, but not the baptismal, death,
    marriage records we seem to be getting most of our info from. I see the
    baptism records only on microfilm usually in 35mm but sometimes the
    narrower 16mm (?). Are these the records you both are referring to or
    other records. If you are talking about baptismal I would like to see an
    example. I know the IGI and other types of records are on fiche, but not
    the others. Can you both explain what you all are researching on fiche.

    joseph

    Josie T. Trevino wrote:

    >Hi!
    >
    >I tried to order a group of microfiche for Nuevo Leon a few weeks ago from
    >SLC but I was told they no longer sold them because everything was on
    >computers now. . .
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >
    >erniealderete@charter.net
    >Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:01 AM
    >To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
    >Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.
    >
    >One way to save dinero is to order microfiche if your data is available in
    >that format. The LDS tells me they do not intend to increase the price of
    >
    >
    >

    josiett

    19 years 6 months ago

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    In reply to Microfiche:Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes. by makas_nc

    Microfiche:Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.

    Hi Joseph!

    What I have seen on the microfiche is the name, event, parents names, etc.
    Right now I do not have access to my microfiche since I am not home but if I
    recall correctly they include the film number and, I believe, the batch
    number. From there you go to the microfilm and view the document.
    Mickey.....correct me if I am wrong.....Thanks!

    Josie

    -----Original Message-----
    From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
    [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Joseph
    Puentes
    Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:57 PM
    To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
    Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Microfiche:Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.

    Now I've seen some things on microfiche, but not the baptismal, death,
    marriage records we seem to be getting most of our info from. I see the
    baptism records only on microfilm usually in 35mm but sometimes the narrower
    16mm (?). Are these the records you both are referring to or other records.
    If you are talking about baptismal I would like to see an example. I know
    the IGI and other types of records are on fiche, but not the others. Can you
    both explain what you all are researching on fiche.

    joseph

    Josie T. Trevino wrote:

    >Hi!
    >
    >I tried to order a group of microfiche for Nuevo Leon a few weeks ago
    >from SLC but I was told they no longer sold them because everything was
    >on computers now. . .
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >
    >erniealderete@charter.net
    >Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:01 AM
    >To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
    >Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.
    >
    >One way to save dinero is to order microfiche if your data is available
    >in that format. The LDS tells me they do not intend to increase the
    >price of
    >
    >
    >

    makas_nc

    19 years 6 months ago

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    In reply to Microfiche:Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes. by josiett

    Microfiche:Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.

    okay yes you are referring to the IGI which is the same thing as what
    you see on the internet except that they stopped updating the Microfiche
    version a good while back. I've heard there are some advantages and
    please point out more if you know. One advantage is that you have all
    the surnames grouped together by state. With the internet version you
    have to supply a first name and then it only allows you to see 5000
    records at a time.

    What else do you like about the fiche other than if the net goes down
    you'll still be able to hunt for records to later view on film.

    joseph

    ps: saludos to your grand-daughter

    Josie T. Trevino wrote:

    >Hi Joseph!
    >
    >What I have seen on the microfiche is the name, event, parents names, etc.
    >Right now I do not have access to my microfiche since I am not home but if I
    >recall correctly they include the film number and, I believe, the batch
    >number. From there you go to the microfilm and view the document.
    >Mickey.....correct me if I am wrong.....Thanks!
    >
    >Josie
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
    >[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Joseph
    >Puentes
    >Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:57 PM
    >To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
    >Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Microfiche:Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.
    >
    >
    >Now I've seen some things on microfiche, but not the baptismal, death,
    >marriage records we seem to be getting most of our info from. I see the
    >baptism records only on microfilm usually in 35mm but sometimes the narrower
    >16mm (?). Are these the records you both are referring to or other records.
    >If you are talking about baptismal I would like to see an example. I know
    >the IGI and other types of records are on fiche, but not the others. Can you
    >both explain what you all are researching on fiche.
    >
    >joseph
    >
    >
    >Josie T. Trevino wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>Hi!
    >>
    >>I tried to order a group of microfiche for Nuevo Leon a few weeks ago
    >>
    >>
    >>from SLC but I was told they no longer sold them because everything was
    >
    >
    >>on computers now. . .
    >>
    >>-----Original Message-----
    >>
    >>erniealderete@charter.net
    >>Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:01 AM
    >>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
    >>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.
    >>
    >>One way to save dinero is to order microfiche if your data is available
    >>in that format. The LDS tells me they do not intend to increase the
    >>price of
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >

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