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roots in late 1500s Morelia?

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    Por Denise Hernand… | Sáb, 05/01/2013 - 17:00

    Roots in Michoacan, Morelia, 1500s

    Hi

    Found this amazing family tree in the Morelia records:

    https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18784-15792-41?cc=1883388&wc…

    From:

    Mexico, Michoacán, Cathol...Church Records, 1649-1909
    Morelia
    Arquidiócesis de Morelia
    Información matrimonial y actas diversas 1555-1599

    I have no idea yet why its included, but its a family of spaniards, mestizos and caciques...with a couple of ordens de santiago and an orden de calatrava.

    If you know you have roots in Michoacan, Morelia, this tree may be of interest.

    Below is a list of surnames on the tree...

    Surnames:

    Guzman
    Ximenez
    Hernandez
    Rivera
    Abalos
    Sambrano
    Ochoa
    Rodriguez de Rivera
    Ramirez (conquistador del orden de santiago)
    Rangel
    Aquila
    Velasquez
    Ruiz
    Enriquez de Rivera
    Gonzalez
    Albarado
    Mata
    de Santa Anna
    de Santiago

    Regards

    Denise Fastrup

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    Don Jose Manuel de Santa Anna

    I should have mentioned:

    Starts with Don Jose Manuel de Santa Anna as the root (most recent individual) of the tree.

    And - I know Michoacan is off topic, but I am following a lead on Petronila de Moctezuma, who possibly lived for a while in the area as a child.

    Regards,
    Denise

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    Don Jose Manuel de Santa Anna

    Denise,
    Indeed this is an amazing document.
    Thanks for sharing it!
    Victoriano Navarro

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    Morelia family tree

    Hi Victoriano

    You are most welcome! I do realize that people moved around a lot, so perhaps someone in this forum has connections to the Morelia area...Michoacan borders on Jalisco, and Morelia lies between Guadalajara and Mexico City.

    Regards
    Denise

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    Family tree

    Denise

    In looking through the Spanish archives (PARES) for Moctzuma's descendants (and the elusive Petronila), I have found some trees like this. Occasionaly they would be in color, they were really quite amazing.

    On the Petronila quest ...

    The Codex Chimalpahin has an interesting statement concerning, apparently, five other children of Fernando Sotelo de Moctezuma (he was the son of Diego Arias de Sotelo) without naming them. The Codex clearly states that there were 10 children (the first five are the names normally seen), and that the other's names are unknown; they were living in "Michhuacan" 2ith their father; "Michhuacan" I assume is Michoacan. See volume 2, pp. 107-111, "Lineage of the Valderrama de Moteuccumas". Have you seen this?

    I never found Petronila in the pedigree charts that I found in PARES.

    George Fulton
    Pleasanton, CA

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    Codex Chimalpahin

    Hello George

    I had in fact seen a reference to this codex in one of your previous comments in this forum, and I have tried to get it through the Danish Library system, however, they will not send it. So it will have to wait until I can travel to Copenhagen (I live in Denmark). I have really enjoyed reading your contributions, and I appreciate your serious approach to research.

    I have (for fun mostly) looked up some information in Pares bases on directions provided in this forum. Difficult, but I managed!

    The search for info in Michoacan(Morelia, the large town near Tarimbaro) stems from my idea that if Diego Sotelos children were living on his (wifes) encomienda,which he stated during his trial for the Martin Cortes conspiracy, they might have been confirmed in a church there. The Spanish is hard for me to read, but I am hoping I would recognize the name Sotelo or Moctezuma if I saw it....

    In any case, there ought to be some Sotelo de Moctezumas there somewhere, even if not Petronila. Two historical sources place the family there. If you want to take a look at the church records I am going through, let me know so we can coordinate it. There are supposedly a mix of docs including confirmations (which I havent yet found), starting in the 1550's of Morelia. 675 images in all...

    Regards
    Denise

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    ANDARIEGOS Y POBLADORES.

    Denise

    Denmark! The internet truly makes this a small world! I discern from your profile that Copenhagen is a pretty substantial journey for you.

    There is a book on Michoacan families that has a moderate amount of information about the Sotelo family "scattered" throughout it. It is called: ANDARIEGOS Y POBLADORES. NUEVA ESPAÑA Y NUEVA GALICIA (SIGLO XVI).

    You can download the entire book as a pdf. Just do a google search for "Andariegos y Pobladores." This should come up as the first item on the list. It is 666 pages and the book is fully searchable.

    Although the focus is Michoacan, it does have information on families relevent to Los Altos.

    George Fulton
    Pleasanton, CA

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    Andariegos y Pobladores

    George,

    Thanks for the tip! I will get to it after work, the book is one I was not aware of. And you are right, I live as far in Copenhagen as you can get and still be in Denmark.

    I just came back from the US with a couple of other books on early colonial Mexico (Nahuas and Spaniards; The Encomenderos of New Spain; P. de Fuentes' The Conquistadors). Right now, this is where my interest lies. Reading about this era has answered questions I had about the movements of people on my family tree. I am not descended from the Sotelo de Moctezuma family (so far as I know) but the mystery attached to Petronila caught my imagination.

    Regards
    Denise

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